tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post7248663846638681932..comments2023-12-01T01:00:34.093-05:00Comments on The Paranormal Pastor: The Terror of the Omega MenPastor Swopehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16008265694116146151noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-3895335176168128182015-01-13T02:59:11.334-05:002015-01-13T02:59:11.334-05:00I grew up in Nyack, N.Y. and have known Camp Bluef...I grew up in Nyack, N.Y. and have known Camp Bluefields, Tweed & The Tunnels since I was 8 years old in 1958. I grew up in those woods. Camped in those wood. Tripped my socks off in those woods. The only 'boogiemen' in those woods are the idiots who twist & misconstrue local folklore to their own ends. No Devils, no boggie men, no headless horsemen. Just woods & interesting local history.bludoomannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-3026216558800083282012-08-13T17:54:33.144-04:002012-08-13T17:54:33.144-04:00Funny. I grew up in Rockland and when we were in H...Funny. I grew up in Rockland and when we were in HS we used to go up to the BlueField tunnels as we would call them and scare the crap out of each other. One night my friends called me to go up with them. I told them I would meet them later. I was on the phone with my girlfriend. About an hour later I drive up to the mountain and pulled over to the particular trail where the rest of the cars were parked. I stopped, got out with my flashlight and started walking down the trail. I got to the bottom where the big tunnel is in the clearing and no one was there. I knew they had already started down the tunnel. I was not brave enough to walk through alone so I hopped up on top and ran down to the other end to meet them. When I got to the other side no one was there. I started getting nervous. I ran back to the clearing on top of the tunnel. When I got to the clearing I initially found no one. I proclaimed in a nervous and frustrated voice "Shit". All of the sudden from behind the trees and bushes around the clearing my friends began to emerge. "are you fucking Kidding Me!" you scared the shit out of us". They heard me running on top off the tunnel and got scared so they jetted back. I said to them. I told you I would meet you down here. I guess they never thought I would go alone. <br /><br />I now live in Upper GrandView at the base of the "mountain" I don't think anything has ever gone on there but a bunch of kids getting drunk and high and scarring themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-55892011037382190662012-05-28T08:59:31.730-04:002012-05-28T08:59:31.730-04:00I really enjoy eating the beef brisket sandwich fr...I really enjoy eating the beef brisket sandwich from baileys smokehouse restaurant on 303. It is only approx 10 minutes from clausland. Sometimes I even get bacon and cheddar on it. Delish!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-49609572951549510162010-01-08T09:54:07.721-05:002010-01-08T09:54:07.721-05:00I have hiked all over that mountain. Yes there ar...I have hiked all over that mountain. Yes there are sections off the trails but not too far from the road that have disturbed earth, many smaller rocks littered on mounds with moss growing on them. They are peculiar to the landscape, and look like shallow graves. Less than 20 miles north of NYC a great secluded place for burying bodies, and the locals see no evil, hear no evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-43414972125586356332009-04-21T21:51:00.000-04:002009-04-21T21:51:00.000-04:00Hello there. It's strange, in my early days at Nya...Hello there. It's strange, in my early days at Nyack I pondered at the symbols of the Omegamen strewn throughout campus. I started around 2001 there. I even began documenting all of the different places the symbol could be found. I investigated the tunnels extensively with a couple trusted friends. I doubt many have searched that place as well as us. The ruins are quite extensive though none of the tunnels themselves extend as far as people claim. After a while we came across a few of the faculty that had been a part of the original Omegamen. We did start a small group of unofficial Omegamen after finding the group to be defunct. It never really went anywhere but we did do quite a bit of urban and not-so-urban exploring in the area. It's so fascinating to me to find the founder here. I'd love to hear some of your stories and maybe share a couple of my own though I doubt mine come nearly as close to as interesting as yours. Jon, I'd especially love to hear from you. Email me at abnormalchristian@yahoo.comAbnormalChristiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-43683630042533645462008-11-02T22:20:00.000-05:002008-11-02T22:20:00.000-05:00Hey Swoper! Great article!Here is a little bit of ...Hey Swoper! Great article!<BR/>Here is a little bit of a follow-up for your readers...<BR/><BR/>This is Jon the founder and "Supreme Omega Commander" of the Omega Men. I am currently a lay pastor and an Executive Protection Agent. The Omega Men formally ceased to exist as an organization in 1993 after an unfortunate incident in Seattle Washington which, although nothing illegal, or even actually questionable took place, did involve the FBI for a short time. I decided it was not worth the potential trouble. For a few years after that I still received calls from people who found our organization's documents and actually tracked me down wanting to join. At our peak The Omega Men had approximately 100 members with chapters in Texas, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Washington. <BR/>The Omega Men was paramilitary fraternal brotherhood started by my roommates and myself as an exercise in government procedure and structure. We however like the out-of-doors and mischief-making so we soon took it outside and into the dark. As probably happens on most college campuses, any time you start something mysterious and mischievous soon many want to join you.<BR/>We became interested in the paranormal "happenings" because of the many rumors that constantly circle our campus. I believe in truth, absolute truth, and the necessity that the truth be known or at least available, therefore I had to find out for myself what was really happening out there. I do not feel that it is a healthy thing for people, especially Christians, to be afraid of things that they are ignorant of, things that may or may not be evil or even real. Yes we saw some weird things up there, and yeah we did some outrageous and probably(certainly)foolish things but I will not tantalize you with stories for that would be contrary to what we were all about. It is far more important for you to confront the real evil in your own heart and mind, than to be trying to find it lurking in some dark tunnel on a lonely mountain.<BR/>Are the Omega Men still around... Well, the kinship we felt is still there and the experiences and Omega frame of mind will be with us forever.<BR/><BR/>JonA S.O.C.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-2826773553233690872008-10-31T23:19:00.000-04:002008-10-31T23:19:00.000-04:00I quite agree with your first comment, kokopelli. ...I quite agree with your first comment, kokopelli. In fact I believe there is a dangerous and deluded maniac called George W. who imagines himself to be President wreaking havoc on the world as we speak...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-35890307625060674082008-10-28T20:33:00.000-04:002008-10-28T20:33:00.000-04:00I have to disagree Cryptidsrus.I would call it asi...I have to disagree Cryptidsrus.<BR/>I would call it asinine.<BR/><BR/>You've entirely missed my point. Whether he disagrees with Christianity or not is not what my point is about at all.And yes he is entitled to his opinion.<BR/><BR/>However, when he makes statements such as : <BR/><BR/>"but do you think that all the alleged "ritual" murders attributed to "Satanic" groups would amount to much when compared to the oodles of folk murdered under the sanctifying cover of Christianity?".<BR/><BR/>That is inferring that Christianity in and of itself is guilty for murder. Hence, it is asinine to make a comment without first knowing what you're talking about.<BR/><BR/>I'm not blasting him for not being a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, or any other religion for that matter, I'm saying if you are going to bring up a point of criticism you must first know the material you speak about.<BR/><BR/>As in actually reading the material or referencing all written documents pertaining to your point. If you're not a christian then read the 4 books of Christs' teachings then show me where it says to kill others(actually it says quite the opposite).<BR/><BR/>I don't sit here judging the Muslim, Hindu, etc. religions because some of their followers have killed. Lumping religions or faiths with men's doing is wrong. And I don't purport to know everything about other religions/faiths because I haven't studied them. So I don't make uninformed or misinformed comments about them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-59545026430417632532008-10-28T17:19:00.000-04:002008-10-28T17:19:00.000-04:00Kokopelli:I wouldn't call the statement "asinine"-...Kokopelli:<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't call the statement "asinine"---Obviously the guy disagrees with Christianity. Doesn't mean Satanism is "legit." Bad opinion, but his opinion nevertheless. <BR/><BR/>All paths lead to the One. If we accept the theory this world's an illusion and we're all working towards enlightenment and "liberation" (if one accepts THAT, of course) then eventually everything shall all be good in its place. Julian Of Norwich said it best---"All shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well." Ultimately all illusion and ignorace will be wiped away and things will be "made clear." Probably not in our lifetimes, of course, but sometime in the spritual evolutionary history of Earth. MY opinion, of course. <BR/><BR/>For what it is worth, I firmly believe ritual slaughter by Satanists occurs in this world as we speak. Ultimately, our friend, while deluded, deserves our compassion. He's just working his way back to God---albeit at a SLOWER pace than others. Thanks for the story again, Swope. :)cryptidsrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184539509191478028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-34897395272067529482008-10-28T00:16:00.000-04:002008-10-28T00:16:00.000-04:00Thanks for the comment Sam,There were a few around...Thanks for the comment Sam,<BR/><BR/>There were a few around in the early 90s after the founders left, then they just faded away.<BR/><BR/>It started out more of shenanigans at night time and became intentional and focused after they saw what they were in for.<BR/><BR/>The security guard who was the leader was a National Guard Chaplains Assistant so he had military training and spiritual training as well.Pastor Swopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16008265694116146151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-35865081625352327472008-10-28T00:11:00.000-04:002008-10-28T00:11:00.000-04:00Thanks for the comment IrishCicero,Hmm. Exactly.Thanks for the comment IrishCicero,<BR/><BR/>Hmm. Exactly.Pastor Swopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16008265694116146151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-40361666654923768722008-10-28T00:09:00.000-04:002008-10-28T00:09:00.000-04:00Thanks for the comment Kokopelli,I say a hearty AM...Thanks for the comment Kokopelli,<BR/><BR/>I say a hearty AMEN.Pastor Swopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16008265694116146151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-10326150942220380162008-10-27T22:49:00.000-04:002008-10-27T22:49:00.000-04:00Not to get deep in religion and wars, however if R...Not to get deep in religion and wars, however if Rastus Boobastus is speaking mainly of the holy wars he needs to research it again - and not make an asinine comment. <BR/><BR/>And beyond that, just because someone says they are a christian does it make it so? I mean, I could say I'm the president. But am I really? (maybe in my own mind). <BR/><BR/>Anywho, Jesus didn't teach murder (which you would know if you actually read the bible). So therefore it's acts of men and not GOD that do many corrupt things. <BR/><BR/>I would hardly call someone a christian (which by definition means a follower of Christ and his teachings) if they don't live by his word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-47037972295106371522008-10-27T22:16:00.000-04:002008-10-27T22:16:00.000-04:00I happened past a pair of robed figures in the nig...I happened past a pair of robed figures in the night one time, under mysterious circumstances.<BR/><BR/>Who are these robed men?IrishCicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15387907982242982347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-16108581429466184972008-10-27T19:25:00.000-04:002008-10-27T19:25:00.000-04:00great story.A few questions though, do the omega m...great story.<BR/><BR/>A few questions though, do the omega men still exist?/ still practise?<BR/><BR/>And were they always serious about their intentions or did it start off as a bit of roleplay or a prank of sorts?Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17274847608393046493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-59001215960525773152008-10-27T17:09:00.000-04:002008-10-27T17:09:00.000-04:00Hi Rastus,I believe it is poor logic to try to dis...Hi Rastus,<BR/><BR/>I believe it is poor logic to try to disprove the validity of one thing, by pointing to the existence of another. <BR/><BR/>Wehn I was a teen I had wandered someplace I was not supposed to be, and saw a Satanic cult run over a partial burried cat with a lawn mower...they exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-30931037121393826052008-10-27T16:14:00.000-04:002008-10-27T16:14:00.000-04:00Thanks for the Comment Rastus Boobastus,But it not...Thanks for the Comment Rastus Boobastus,<BR/><BR/>But it not only is narrow minded, acerbic and bigoted it is very ill informed. While your statement about the reality of ritualistic murders might have been true 30 years ago there have been many very real and validated instances over the past two decades.Pastor Swopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16008265694116146151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-71331162274344074482008-10-27T11:57:00.000-04:002008-10-27T11:57:00.000-04:00Just curious Pastor, but do you think that all the...Just curious Pastor, but do you think that all the alleged "ritual" murders attributed to "Satanic" groups would amount to much when compared to the oodles of folk murdered under the sanctifying cover of Christianity?<BR/><BR/>It seems that the Satanists are pikers in the area of group slaughter undertaken in a ritualized context.<BR/><BR/>I suggest that you check out Bill Ellis's books Lucifer Ascending & Raising Satan along with Gareth Medway's Lucifer Rising for good solid examinations of exactly how the claims about "Satanic cults" are, in many cases, hot air inflated lumps of invented bullshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-15766561122409330342008-10-26T10:27:00.000-04:002008-10-26T10:27:00.000-04:00Thanks for the comment Moonwalker,I am glad you li...Thanks for the comment Moonwalker,<BR/><BR/>I am glad you like the blog, thanks for the compliment!<BR/><BR/>In America there is a current explosion of ghost hunting and paranormal groups. Many have no idea what they are dealing with. Some web sites that 'train' these groups show no real knowledge in differentiating demonic entities and residual hauntings. I think in the upcoming years we will see a surge of mental illness in the paranormal community caused or enhanced by unwitting exposure to dark forces they had no idea how to deal with.Pastor Swopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16008265694116146151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-35148974030152148462008-10-26T10:23:00.000-04:002008-10-26T10:23:00.000-04:00Thanks for the comment Kent,They did see themselve...Thanks for the comment Kent,<BR/><BR/>They did see themselves as dark avengers that's for sure. They were at times downright fearless, repelling into dark chasms late at night and scaring off drug dealers. That's why I designated myself as 'prayer support'...:)Pastor Swopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16008265694116146151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-58352971734001930922008-10-26T10:20:00.000-04:002008-10-26T10:20:00.000-04:00Thanks for the comment Cryptidsrus,For more on exo...Thanks for the comment Cryptidsrus,<BR/><BR/>For more on exorcism in the area read the latest comment for "The Specters of Oom" one of my College President's had a nasty encounter a few years ago related by his son's friend.Pastor Swopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16008265694116146151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-22302030914648198862008-10-25T22:51:00.000-04:002008-10-25T22:51:00.000-04:00Greetings Pastor from Holland.I'm a Muslim myself ...Greetings Pastor from Holland.<BR/><BR/>I'm a Muslim myself and like you I'm very interested in the world behind this world.<BR/><BR/>I think you took a great initiative by talking about these subjects. You don't try to convince people to search the light and God, instead you even give some natural explanations for the weird things you write about. And that's a good way to approach these kind of things.<BR/><BR/>Many respect for you and I really enjoy reading all the stories.<BR/><BR/>I have one question though: Is it possible to investigate these things? Or is it a bad idea?<BR/><BR/>I hope you'll manage to put all your stories in a book. I'll make sure to buy it!<BR/><BR/>Peace and Love.<BR/><BR/>mwMoonwalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02626371329213132771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-68836885634578166892008-10-25T15:11:00.000-04:002008-10-25T15:11:00.000-04:00Very interesting story. Thanks for telling it.It ...Very interesting story. Thanks for telling it.<BR/>It seems appropriately spooky for Halloween, yet with the good guys being the "dark avengers" or something.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-58066455794585569542008-10-25T14:11:00.000-04:002008-10-25T14:11:00.000-04:00I DID like the story about the giant UFO, though. ...I DID like the story about the giant UFO, though. You're right---inner city high school principals are tough sons-of-guns. So the object must have been HUGE.cryptidsrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184539509191478028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-914842448114558426.post-53577037107001858272008-10-25T14:08:00.000-04:002008-10-25T14:08:00.000-04:00Interesting story, Swope. You know it's frightenin...Interesting story, Swope. <BR/><BR/>You know it's frightening when even the police won't go in. <BR/><BR/>I guess exorcising the place is not an option. Thanks for sharing.cryptidsrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184539509191478028noreply@blogger.com